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Creating Christ

Forensics expert J.S. Valliant reconstructs back story of how Roman Elites conspired to create Christianity, changing the course of history.

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Fritz Heede, Nijole Sparkis

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But the point of the
matter is that's become - Creating Christ

But the point of the matter is that's become

- An argument that Paul
is continuously making - Creating Christ

- An argument that Paul is continuously making

Well in the letter ascribed to James, - Creating Christ

Well in the letter ascribed to James,

Well that appears to be flying - Creating Christ

Well that appears to be flying

And in that, we sort of see encapsulated - Creating Christ

And in that, we sort of see encapsulated

- [Narrator] Authors Thijs Voskuilen - Creating Christ

- [Narrator] Authors Thijs Voskuilen

- To me, the gospel
material is mostly all literary, - Creating Christ

- To me, the gospel material is mostly all literary,

Now the book of acts
for the first 15 chapters - Creating Christ

Now the book of acts for the first 15 chapters

And suddenly you're talking
about, we did this, I did this. - Creating Christ

And suddenly you're talking about, we did this, I did t...

It starts with the so-called
Jerusalem conference - Creating Christ

It starts with the so-called Jerusalem conference

The key is acts 21:21, - Creating Christ

The key is acts 21:21,

And there you see that James - Creating Christ

And there you see that James

And he's called, James is called the leader - Creating Christ

And he's called, James is called the leader

And it's quoted then, "but you see, Paul, - Creating Christ

And it's quoted then, "but you see, Paul,

"About what you're doing in
the overseas in the diaspora, - Creating Christ

"About what you're doing in the overseas in the di...

So to show people there's
no truth in these things," - Creating Christ

So to show people there's no truth in these things,&quo...

But the point is, these people in Jerusalem - Creating Christ

But the point is, these people in Jerusalem

So James says, "to show there's no truth, - Creating Christ

So James says, "to show there's no truth,

It's in there, it's in
the Christian literature - Creating Christ

It's in there, it's in the Christian literature

And so he goes in and he's mobbed. - Creating Christ

And so he goes in and he's mobbed.

So at that moment when
he's about to be mobbed - Creating Christ

So at that moment when he's about to be mobbed

And the Roman guards have
come down, seeing this huge, - Creating Christ

And the Roman guards have come down, seeing this huge,

And the Roman guards rescue him - Creating Christ

And the Roman guards rescue him

And you see what side he is
on and who is supporting him, - Creating Christ

And you see what side he is on and who is supporting him,

They escort him down to
Caesarea, the Roman headquarters, - Creating Christ

They escort him down to Caesarea, the Roman headquarters,

So the point is, they protect him - Creating Christ

So the point is, they protect him

And even acts admits
that once he gets to Rome, - Creating Christ

And even acts admits that once he gets to Rome,

- [Narrator] That
certainly seems to indicate - Creating Christ

- [Narrator] That certainly seems to indicate

James seems to be the leader
of the torah-orthodox Jews. - Creating Christ

James seems to be the leader of the torah-orthodox Jews.

If James were one of the apostles of Jesus, - Creating Christ

If James were one of the apostles of Jesus,

- We have another letter of Paul's, - Creating Christ

- We have another letter of Paul's,

So he's having arguments with the apostles, - Creating Christ

So he's having arguments with the apostles,

Paul does not cite Jesus - Creating Christ

Paul does not cite Jesus

The Jesus of the gospels is torah-critical. - Creating Christ

The Jesus of the gospels is torah-critical.

And as I began to think
about it, it became clear to me, - Creating Christ

And as I began to think about it, it became clear to me,

Had the gospels existed, - Creating Christ

Had the gospels existed,

Jesus point-blank criticizes
kosher diet, for example. - Creating Christ

Jesus point-blank criticizes kosher diet, for example.

Paul never cites the
words or the deeds of Jesus, - Creating Christ

Paul never cites the words or the deeds of Jesus,

- And Paul's words must pre-date the war, - Creating Christ

- And Paul's words must pre-date the war,

So there's no way that kind of argument - Creating Christ

So there's no way that kind of argument

And it's probable that
those kinds of conflicts - Creating Christ

And it's probable that those kinds of conflicts

- If the gospels were
an accurate reflection - Creating Christ

- If the gospels were an accurate reflection

Even if the previous apostles - Creating Christ

Even if the previous apostles

Paul would not have needed to argue - Creating Christ

Paul would not have needed to argue

- He would have only needed to refer - Creating Christ

- He would have only needed to refer

- [Narrator] We know
Paul was born in tarsus - Creating Christ

- [Narrator] We know Paul was born in tarsus

- Oh, the Romans were
certainly somewhat behind him, - Creating Christ

- Oh, the Romans were certainly somewhat behind him,

He says, "give my regards
to my kinsman Herodion," - Creating Christ

He says, "give my regards to my kinsman Herodion,"

And all the people he
refers to at the end of Romans - Creating Christ

And all the people he refers to at the end of Romans

And the littlest herod
was drowned in Pompeii - Creating Christ

And the littlest herod was drowned in Pompeii

Paul is from the herodian family, - Creating Christ

Paul is from the herodian family,

- [Narrator] And in his letters, - Creating Christ

- [Narrator] And in his letters,

- Fascinatingly, Paul
himself refers to Nero's palace, - Creating Christ

- Fascinatingly, Paul himself refers to Nero's palace,

- [Narrator] Famously,
in his letter to the Romans, - Creating Christ

- [Narrator] Famously, in his letter to the Romans,

- In the epistles in
particular, the Pauline epistles, - Creating Christ

- In the epistles in particular, the Pauline epistles,

- Paul, in one of the oldest
sections of the new testament, - Creating Christ

- Paul, in one of the oldest sections of the new testament,

And all of this struck
me as, in this new light, - Creating Christ

And all of this struck me as, in this new light,

- You must obey the
emperor, there's a good one, - Creating Christ

- You must obey the emperor, there's a good one,

There's all this, - Creating Christ

There's all this,

Why do you have your mouthpieces saying, - Creating Christ

Why do you have your mouthpieces saying,

So, if you were trying
to create a state religion - Creating Christ

So, if you were trying to create a state religion

- Paul appears to be
combining an anti-torah message - Creating Christ

- Paul appears to be combining an anti-torah message

So in criticizing torah
and arguing for peace, - Creating Christ

So in criticizing torah and arguing for peace,

Paul is changing messianic Judaism. - Creating Christ

Paul is changing messianic Judaism.

- [Narrator] One of the
objections to the idea - Creating Christ

- [Narrator] One of the objections to the idea

But which of these
groups of Messiah-followers - Creating Christ

But which of these groups of Messiah-followers

- Today we use the word
Christian in a very sectarian sense. - Creating Christ

- Today we use the word Christian in a very sectarian sense.

The sense of Christian that we use it in - Creating Christ

The sense of Christian that we use it in

- Christianity didn't exist - Creating Christ

- Christianity didn't exist

- And to Romans who
don't make fine distinctions - Creating Christ

- And to Romans who don't make fine distinctions

However today the idea
of a Jewish Christianity - Creating Christ

However today the idea of a Jewish Christianity

We exclusively think of Christianity - Creating Christ

We exclusively think of Christianity

The objection that we
run across most frequently - Creating Christ

The objection that we run across most frequently

But it is a myth that's
understandable when you realize - Creating Christ

But it is a myth that's understandable when you realize

That tradition of martyrdom
is almost certainly rooted - Creating Christ

That tradition of martyrdom is almost certainly rooted

It's that tradition of persecution - Creating Christ

It's that tradition of persecution

And, if you think about it, - Creating Christ

And, if you think about it,

- Curiously enough when we look - Creating Christ

- Curiously enough when we look

The work of professor candida
moss, the British theologian, - Creating Christ

The work of professor candida moss, the British theologian,

- Hello, I'm candida moss, - Creating Christ

- Hello, I'm candida moss,

Today Christians from all denominations - Creating Christ

Today Christians from all denominations

But contrary to traditional church teaching - Creating Christ

But contrary to traditional church teaching

Rather, these stories were exaggerated, - Creating Christ

Rather, these stories were exaggerated,

- [Narrator] In her book, professor moss, - Creating Christ

- [Narrator] In her book, professor moss,

It's really a legendary
mythology of Christian martyrdom - Creating Christ

It's really a legendary mythology of Christian martyrdo...

And yes, Nero persecuted - Creating Christ

And yes, Nero persecuted

- So as we can see, there
were pro-Roman Jews - Creating Christ

- So as we can see, there were pro-Roman Jews

Also we see that there were Christians - Creating Christ

Also we see that there were Christians

This is the political
context that would lead - Creating Christ

This is the political context that would lead

- James was killed, the war broke out - Creating Christ

- James was killed, the war broke out

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Forensics expert J.S. Valliant reconstructs back story of how Roman Elites conspired to create Christianity, changing the course of history.

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Director: Fritz Heede, Nijole Sparkis

Writer: Nijole Sparkis

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Genre: documentary

Year: 2022

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