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David Kepesh:
[interview on the Charlie Rose show]
We're not all descended from The Puritans. Charlie Rose:
No? David Kepesh:
There was another colony 30 miles from Plymouth, it's not on the maps today. Marymount it was called. Charlie Rose:
Yeah, alright, you mention in your book... David Kepesh:
The colony where anything goes, went. Charlie Rose:
There was booze... David Kepesh:
here was booze. There was fornication. There was music. There was... They even ah, ah, ah, you name it, you name it. They even danced around the maypole once a month, wearing masks, worshiping god knows what, Whites and Indians together, all going for broke... Charlie Rose:
Who was responsible for all of this? David Kepesh:
A character by the name of Thomas Morton. Charlie Rose:
Aah, the "Hugh Hefner" of The Puritans. David Kepesh:
You could say that. I'm going to read you a quote of what The Puritans thought of Morton's followers: 'Debauched bacchanalians and atheists, falling into great licentiousness, and leading degenerate lives'. When I heard that, I packed my bags, I left Oxford, and I came straight to America, America the licentious. Charlie Rose:
So what happened to all of those people? David Kepesh:
Well, the Puritans shot them down. They sent in Miles Standish leading the militia. He chopped down the maypole, cut down those colored ribbons, banners, everything; party was over Charlie Rose:
And we became a nation of straight-laced Puritans. David Kepesh:
Well... Charlie Rose:
Isn't that your point though? The Puritans won, they stamped out all things sexual... how would you say it? David Kepesh:
Sexual happiness. Charlie Rose:
Exactly. Until the 1960s. David Kepesh:
Until the 1960s when it all exploded again all over the place. Charlie Rose:
Right, everyone was dancing around the maypole, then, make love not war. David Kepesh:
If you remember, only a decade earlier, if you wanted to have sex, if you wanted to make love in the 1950s, you had to beg for it, you had to cop a feel. Charlie Rose:
Or... get married. David Kepesh:
As I did in the 1960s. Charlie Rose:
Any regrets? David Kepesh:
Plenty. Um, but that's our secret. Don't tell anybody. [laughter] David Kepesh:
That's just between you and me
[interview on the Charlie Rose show]
We're not all descended from The Puritans. Charlie Rose:
No? David Kepesh:
There was another colony 30 miles from Plymouth, it's not on the maps today. Marymount it was called. Charlie Rose:
Yeah, alright, you mention in your book... David Kepesh:
The colony where anything goes, went. Charlie Rose:
There was booze... David Kepesh:
here was booze. There was fornication. There was music. There was... They even ah, ah, ah, you name it, you name it. They even danced around the maypole once a month, wearing masks, worshiping god knows what, Whites and Indians together, all going for broke... Charlie Rose:
Who was responsible for all of this? David Kepesh:
A character by the name of Thomas Morton. Charlie Rose:
Aah, the "Hugh Hefner" of The Puritans. David Kepesh:
You could say that. I'm going to read you a quote of what The Puritans thought of Morton's followers: 'Debauched bacchanalians and atheists, falling into great licentiousness, and leading degenerate lives'. When I heard that, I packed my bags, I left Oxford, and I came straight to America, America the licentious. Charlie Rose:
So what happened to all of those people? David Kepesh:
Well, the Puritans shot them down. They sent in Miles Standish leading the militia. He chopped down the maypole, cut down those colored ribbons, banners, everything; party was over Charlie Rose:
And we became a nation of straight-laced Puritans. David Kepesh:
Well... Charlie Rose:
Isn't that your point though? The Puritans won, they stamped out all things sexual... how would you say it? David Kepesh:
Sexual happiness. Charlie Rose:
Exactly. Until the 1960s. David Kepesh:
Until the 1960s when it all exploded again all over the place. Charlie Rose:
Right, everyone was dancing around the maypole, then, make love not war. David Kepesh:
If you remember, only a decade earlier, if you wanted to have sex, if you wanted to make love in the 1950s, you had to beg for it, you had to cop a feel. Charlie Rose:
Or... get married. David Kepesh:
As I did in the 1960s. Charlie Rose:
Any regrets? David Kepesh:
Plenty. Um, but that's our secret. Don't tell anybody. [laughter] David Kepesh:
That's just between you and me
Full Transcript
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I will read you a quote of what the Puritans thought of
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Morton's followers
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Debauched aliens and atheists falling into great licentiousness
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and leading degenerate lives
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When I heard that I packed my bags I left Oxford I came straight to America
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America the licentious
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So what happened to all of those people
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The Puritans shut them down they sent in Miles Standish
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Leading the militia who chopped down the Maypole cut down those coloured ribbons
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Banners everything The party was over
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And we became a nation of strait laced Puritans
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Well
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Movie Summary
Cultural critic, David Kepesh, finds his life, which he indicates is a state of "emancipated manhood," thrown into tragic disarray by Consuela Castillo, a well-mannered student who awakens a sense of sexual possessiveness in her teac
Actors
David Kepesh
Charlie Rose
