I was eight years old, and, um, Michael Green, who was also eight, asked if he could watch...

Cynthia: I was eight years old, and, um, Michael Green, who was also eight, asked if he could watch me take a pee... And I said he could if I could watch him take one, too. So we went to the woods behind my house. And I got this feeling he was chickenin' out cos he kept sayin' "Ladies first!" So I pulled down my little panties and urinated, and he ran away before I even finished. Graham: Was it a topic of conversation between you after that? Cynthia: No! He kind of avoided me for the rest of the summer, and then his family moved away... To Cleveland, actually. Graham: What a shame. When did you finally see a penis?

Yeah, okay. Um... I was eight years old, and, um, Michael Green, who was also eight, asked if he could watch me take a pee. And I said he could if I could watch him take one too. So we went to the woods behind my house. And I got this feeling that he was chickenin' out 'cause he kept sayin', "Ladies first!" So I pulled down my little panties and urinated, and he ran away before I even finished. So, was it a topic of conversation between the two of you after that? No! He kind of avoided me for the rest of the summer. And then his family moved away. To Cleveland, actually. - What a shame. - Mmm. When did you finally see a penis? When I was 14. So, wh – what'd you think? Was it what you expected it to be? Mmm... no. Not really. I – I didn't – I sort of pictured it, um – I didn't think it would have, um... veins or ridges or anything. I just thought it would be smooth, like a test tube. It's weird, thinking about it now. The... organ itself