Jon Peters comes in. "I hear you've got a take on Superman." I was like, "Yeah, yeah."...

Kevin Smith: Jon Peters comes in. "I hear you've got a take on Superman." I was like, "Yeah, yeah." He's going, "Okay, let me tell you -- let me hear it." Jon Peters: You know, Kevin came in. He was kind of an interesting character. We talked about a lot of different things. He was such a nut. He was so animated and he talks a great game. I trusted him. Kevin Smith: He goes, "Okay. Three things I want with this picture. I'm gonna send you on your way. Do your thing, come back. Number 1: I don't want to see him fly." I said, "Okay. Ever?" He goes, "No, I think it looks fake. I hate all that flying shit. So I don't want to see him fly." I was, "Okay." "Number 2: I don't want to see him in that suit." I was like, "Which suit?" He's going, "That suit. The suit he's always wearing." I was like, "Superman's suit? With the cape and the blue and the red and the yellow?" He goes, "Yeah, I don't like it." His words, not mine: "Too faggy." I said, "Uh, all right." Jon Schnepp: [to Jon Peters] You gave him some notes and he said, "The three things I don't want - I don't want him to fly, I don't want him in that costume --" Jon Peters: [unfazed] None of that's true. Okay? No, that's not true. Of course, he has to fly. He always flew. It's Superman you're talking about. He's in the costume. None of those are true. Is there a third one? Kevin Smith: "Number 3: He has to fight a giant spider in the third act." I said, "Okay, really?" Jon Schnepp: [back with Jon Peters] He has to fight a giant spider. Jon Peters: Well, that was a Thanagarian snare beast. Kevin Smith: "What is this based on?" He goes, "Well, do you know anything about spiders? Spiders are the fiercest killers in the animal kingdom. You know you gotta be careful around spiders. So if you had a big one -- imagine how deadly they are. I'm looking for my moment in this movie. Like "King Kong" when I was a boy and they opened up the gates and you saw the giant monkey going, I want to open up the gates and then you see this gigantic spider coming out and Superman's got to fight it. The spider's a vision I have." I was like, "Okay, man, I'll spider it up for you and stuff." Jon Peters: If I remember it correctly, I acted as the director for a while by bringing in people and starting some of my concepts on paper so that ultimately when I brought on Tim or whoever we brought in I can sit down and say, "Okay, this is where we are and what we've done."