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And it was clear to me in the conversations
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The Forever Prisoner

And it was clear to mein the conversations that were going around the tablethat they had...

And it was clear to me
in the conversations that were going around the table
that they had decided they were gonna use physical coercion
against Abu Zubaydah

Full Transcript

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And it was clear to me in the conversations
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that were going around the table that they had decided
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they were gonna use physical coercion against Abu Zubaydah.
Duration
9 seconds
Views
17
Timestamp in Movie
01:07:55
Uploaded
May 10, 2025
Genres
documentary, crime
Production
Jigsaw Productions,HBO Documentary Films

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Movie Summary

Follows the story of Abu Zubaydah, the first high-value detainee subjected to the CIA's program, later identified as torture by those outside the agency.
"Well if you're gonna use it, then you oughta use something..." - The Forever Prisoner 00:15
"Well if you're gonna use it, then you oughta use ...
Once they decided that they were gonna go forward with it - The Forever Prisoner 00:12
Once they decided that they were gonna go forward with it
I'm just trying to reconcile too - The Forever Prisoner 00:05
I'm just trying to reconcile too
And he puts the timeline more towards June, July - The Forever Prisoner 00:05
And he puts the timeline more towards June, July
By June and July, I was heavy into discussions - The Forever Prisoner 00:06
By June and July, I was heavy into discussions
All I can tell you is I was first told about this idea - The Forever Prisoner 00:08
All I can tell you is I was first told about this idea
When exactly were the techniques invented? - The Forever Prisoner 00:24
When exactly were the techniques invented?
I was just told it was a matter of some urgency - The Forever Prisoner 00:07
I was just told it was a matter of some urgency
We've never done this kind of thing before." - The Forever Prisoner 00:10
We've never done this kind of thing before."
And I started to play out the scenarios in my head - The Forever Prisoner 00:08
And I started to play out the scenarios in my head
It may or may not be legal." - The Forever Prisoner 00:20
It may or may not be legal."
And the idea of the consequences - The Forever Prisoner 00:05
And the idea of the consequences
So that led to a couple of meetings in George Tenet's office - The Forever Prisoner 00:06
So that led to a couple of meetings in George Tenet's o...
So, did you propose any other list - The Forever Prisoner 00:08
So, did you propose any other list
Did you propose any other list - The Forever Prisoner 00:05
Did you propose any other list
And so I met with Tenet, Rizzo - The Forever Prisoner 00:08
And so I met with Tenet, Rizzo
They went through each of these techniques. - The Forever Prisoner 00:08
They went through each of these techniques.
Facial slaps, a couple of stress positions. - The Forever Prisoner 00:11
Facial slaps, a couple of stress positions.
And there was another one that called for a mock burial. - The Forever Prisoner 00:04
And there was another one that called for a mock burial.
It sounded something of Edgar Allen Poe, I think it was. - The Forever Prisoner 00:04
It sounded something of Edgar Allen Poe, I think it was.