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The Forever Prisoner

In Washington,psychologist Terry DeMay the head of the CIA'sOffice of Medical Services...

In Washington,
psychologist Terry DeMay the head of the CIA's
Office of Medical Services raised a ruckus. After receiving a series
of secret messages from nurses at the black site DeMay would later denounce
the interrogation as an "amateurish experiment,"
not "safe" or "effective." To get a firsthand assessment,
Jose Rodriguez sent a team from Headquarters to Thailand. Among them were the lawyer who had recommended
Mitchell for the job and an analyst
named Alfreda Bikowsky whose enthusiasm
for harsh interrogations would earn her the nickname
"The Queen of Torture." I suggested that they be
in the room with us unmasked while we did the waterboarding so they could see
what it was really like

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In Washington, psychologist Terry DeMay
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the head of the CIA's Office of Medical Services
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raised a ruckus.
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After receiving a series of secret messages
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from nurses at the black site
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DeMay would later denounce the interrogation
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as an "amateurish experiment," not "safe" or "effective."
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To get a firsthand assessment, Jose Rodriguez sent a team
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from Headquarters to Thailand.
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Among them were the lawyer
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who had recommended Mitchell for the job
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and an analyst named Alfreda Bikowsky
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whose enthusiasm for harsh interrogations
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would earn her the nickname "The Queen of Torture."
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I suggested that they be in the room with us unmasked
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while we did the waterboarding
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so they could see what it was really like.
Duration
42 seconds
Views
38
Timestamp in Movie
01:37:02
Uploaded
May 10, 2025
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Production
Jigsaw Productions,HBO Documentary Films

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Movie Summary

Follows the story of Abu Zubaydah, the first high-value detainee subjected to the CIA's program, later identified as torture by those outside the agency.