Keep your voice down, Mr. Caine. We have only a few minutes. Now ask your questions. Did...

Paul Obermann, Chief Engineer Berlin Power & Light Co.: [Meeting at the Berlin Zoo, second floor aquarium, near closing time] Keep your voice down, Mr. Caine. We have only a few minutes. Now ask your questions. Barney Caine: Did you see Tom Neeley early in January? Paul Obermann, Chief Engineer Berlin Power & Light Co.: Yes. We met several times. Barney Caine: Was Kay Neeley with him? Paul Obermann, Chief Engineer Berlin Power & Light Co.: On one occasion. We had dinner. Barney Caine: How did you come to know Tom? Paul Obermann, Chief Engineer Berlin Power & Light Co.: We met many years ago in Hamburg. Barney Caine: Under what circumstance? Paul Obermann, Chief Engineer Berlin Power & Light Co.: In the late spring of 1945,I was captured by the British and taken to their Intelligence Headquarters in Hamburg. Major Neeley was there on a temporary assignment. He worked with me and a Wehrmacht general named Kladen on a secret project, code name "Genesis." Barney Caine: What did Genesis stand for? Paul Obermann, Chief Engineer Berlin Power & Light Co.: Synthetic fuel. Barney Caine: When you say fuel, you mean gasoline? Paul Obermann, Chief Engineer Berlin Power & Light Co.: Yes, of course gasoline... Oil, propane, methane, thick lubricants, natural gas... even butter. All made from coal. The process is called hydrogenation. Barney Caine: How important was Genesis? Paul Obermann, Chief Engineer Berlin Power & Light Co.: The entire war-machine ran on synthetic fuel. Germany had no natural crude, but we possessed great quantities of coal. As does your country. The Genesis formula provided us with a pure synthetic oil producing no pollution. Come. We must go. They are closing.

Keep your voice down, Mr. Caine. We have only a few minutes. Now ask your questions. Did you see Tom Neeley early in January? Yes. We met several times. - Was Kay Neeley with him? - On one occasion. We had dinner. How did you come to know Tom? We met many years ago in Hamburg. Under what circumstance? In the late spring of 1945, I was captured by the British... ...and taken to their Intelligence Headquarters in Hamburg. Major Neeley was there on a temporary assignment. He worked with me and a Wehrmacht general named Kladen... ...on a secret project, code name Genesis. What did Genesis stand for? Synthetic fuel. - When you say fuel, you mean gasoline? - Yes, of course gasoline. Oil, propane, methane, thick lubricants, natural gas... ...even butter. All made from coal. The process is called hydrogenation. How important was Genesis? The entire war-machine ran on synthetic fuel. Germany had no natural crude, but we possessed great quantities of coal. As does your country. The Genesis formula provided us... ...with a pure synthetic oil producing no pollution. Come. We must go. They are closing. At the end of the war, they had developed a truly remarkable catalyst. The catalyst lasted for over one million tons of coal. Then the formula for that catalyst would still be considered secret. Without question. Whoever possessed the formula would need only coal... ...and a basic chemical technology to be self-sufficient in energy. Then it would follow that certain interests wouldn't exactly be thrilled... ...with the introduction of mass-produced synthetic fuel made from coal. Obviously not. They would no longer enjoy huge profits from the scarcity of natural crude. The entire power structure in the world would shift from the Arabs and OPEC... ...back to the United States. After all, Mr. Caine... ...America has the largest deposits of coal on this planet. Forces involved are colossal. I warned Tom, as I warn you: Leave Genesis to the past, ja. - Who ran the Genesis project? - Hermann G�ring. No, I don't mean a political head. - Who was the chief scientist? - Dr. Abraham Esau. - Is he still alive? - I have no idea. Please, I must go now. Alone. Well, you've been extremely helpful, Mr. Obermann. I really appreciate it. I hope you succeed in your quest, Mr. Caine.