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Bateson: And, specifically, it is a recursive epistemology
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The Minds of Men

And, specifically, it is a recursive epistemology and based upon recursiveness of cycles...

Bateson: And, specifically, it is a recursive epistemology and based upon recursiveness of cycles returning all the time to bite their own beginnings

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Bateson: And, specifically, it is a recursive epistemology
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and based upon recursiveness of cycles
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returning all the time to bite their own beginnings.
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01:31:53
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Jul 01, 2025
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"The Minds of Men" is a 3+ year investigation into the experimentation, art, and practice of social engineering and mind control during the Cold War - a mind-bending journey into the past that gives startling insight into the worl...
Von Foerster: Cybernetics is programmed in this same base human language - The Minds of Men 00:09
Von Foerster: Cybernetics is programmed in this same base...
Our very essence is conflicted with the environment, and yet - The Minds of Men 00:08
Our very essence is conflicted with the environment, and yet
Bateson: The old worm Ouroboros is an odd worm who conceals - The Minds of Men 00:11
Bateson: The old worm Ouroboros is an odd worm who conceals
The Ouroboros! The Ouroboros is the perfect partner for cybernetics! - The Minds of Men 00:07
The Ouroboros! The Ouroboros is the perfect partner for...
Narrator: Ultimately, the underlying natural matrix is supplanted by an artificial one - The Minds of Men 00:16
Narrator: Ultimately, the underlying natural matrix is...
♪(eerie music) - The Minds of Men 00:11
♪(eerie music)
The science of cybernetics would reveal to the C.I.A. - The Minds of Men 00:05
The science of cybernetics would reveal to the C.I.A.
– or any serious agency making inquiries – - The Minds of Men 00:20
– or any serious agency making inquiries –
Behavior, then, modified by continuous feedback, - The Minds of Men 00:09
Behavior, then, modified by continuous feedback,
The ultimate question was who, or what, would control the signal? - The Minds of Men 00:08
The ultimate question was who, or what, would control the...
Reports from the first five of the ten Macy's Cybernetics conferences - The Minds of Men 00:07
Reports from the first five of the ten Macy's...
These ten meetings systematically worked out questions of control - The Minds of Men 00:19
These ten meetings systematically worked out questions of...
The last Cybernetics meeting was held April 22, 1953 - The Minds of Men 00:12
The last Cybernetics meeting was held April 22, 1953
Norbert Wiener lamented: - The Minds of Men 00:26
Norbert Wiener lamented:
Narrator: This was especially so - The Minds of Men 00:12
Narrator: This was especially so
Wiener: We do not have a choice in suppressing these new technological developments. - The Minds of Men 00:05
Wiener: We do not have a choice in suppressing these new...
We can only hand it over to the world that exists about us. - The Minds of Men 00:05
We can only hand it over to the world that exists about us.
There are those who hope for the good of a better understanding - The Minds of Men 00:14
There are those who hope for the good of a better...
I am compelled to say... - The Minds of Men 00:05
I am compelled to say...
That it is a very slight hope. - The Minds of Men 00:05
That it is a very slight hope.