Why do you think that the men's rights movement is at odds with feminism? What has created...

Cassie Jaye: Why do you think that the men's rights movement is at odds with feminism? What has created that clash, that war between each other? Paul Elam: Well, one, feminism has spent the last 50 years demonizing men, which is sort of one of the problem. Feminist scholars have characterized men as inherently violent, inherently bad, inherently predatory, inherently oppressive. They have postulated that masculinity is a disease. Dean Esmay: Feminists aren't the only problem, the problems didn't start with feminism, so when I start criticizing feminism, I want you to know... you're just part of the problem, they're just part of the problem. You calling men oppressors and women oppressed, demonizes men and I believe diminishes women at the same time. It's a way of telling men to shut up, it's a way of telling men that their experiences don't matter. You tell a man that he is privileged, therefore, anything he's gone through or anything that he has to say doesn't matter. His lived experiences don't matter because he's privileged.