Truth is, I don't think people... understood what it was I was doing at Shaffer. I wasn't...

Terence Fletcher: Truth is, I don't think people... understood what it was I was doing at Shaffer. I wasn't there to conduct. Any fucking moron can wave his arms and keep people in tempo. I was there to push people beyond what's expected of them. I believe that is an absolute necessity. Otherwise, we are depriving the world of the next Louis Armstrong, the next Charlie Parker. I told you that story about how Charlie Parker became Charlie Parker, right? Andrew: Jo Jones threw a cymbal at his head. Terence Fletcher: Exactly. Parker's a young kid, pretty good on the sax, gets up to play at a cutting session, and he fucks it up. And Jones nearly decapitates him for it. And he's laughed off stage. But the next morning, what does he do? He practices. And he practices, and he practices with one goal in mind: Never too be laughed at again. And a year later he goes back to the Reno and he steps up on that stage and he plays the best motherfucking solo the world has ever heard. So imagine if Jones just said "Well, that's okay Charlie. That was alright. Good job." Then Charlie thinks to himself "Well, shit. I did do a pretty good job." End of story. No Bird. That, to me, is an absolute tragedy. But that's just what the world wants now. People wonder why jazz is dying. I'll tell you, man - and every Starbucks "jazz" album just proves my point, really - there are no two words in the English language more harmful than "good job". Andrew: But is there a line? You know, maybe you go too far and you discourage the next Charlie Parker from ever becoming Charlie Parker? Terence Fletcher: No, man, no. Because the next Charlie Parker would never be discouraged. Andrew: Yeah. Terence Fletcher: The truth is, Andrew, I never really had a Charlie Parker. But I tried. I actually fucking tried, and that's more than most people ever do. And I will never apologize for how I tried.

Truth is, I don't think people understood... what it was I was doing at Shaffer. I wasn't there to conduct. Any fucking moron can wave his arms and keep people in tempo. I was there to push people beyond what's expected of them. I believe that is... an absolute necessity. Otherwise, we're depriving the world of the next Louis Armstrong. The next Charlie Parker. I told you about how Charlie Parker became Charlie Parker, right? - Jo Jones threw a cymbal at his head. - Exactly. Parker's a young kid, pretty good on the sax. Gets up to play at a cutting session, and he fucks it up. And Jones nearly decapitates him for it. And he's laughed off-stage. Cries himself to sleep that night, but the next morning, what does he do? He practises. And he practises and he practises with one goal in mind... never to be laughed at again. And a year later, he goes back to the Reno and he steps up on that stage... and plays the best motherfucking solo the world has ever heard. So imagine if Jones had just said: "Well, that's okay, Charlie. That was all right. Good job." And then Charlie thinks to himself, "Well, shit, I did do a pretty good job." End of story. No Bird. That, to me, is an absolute tragedy. But that's just what the world wants now. People wonder why jazz is dying. I tell you, man, and every Starbucks "jazz" album... just proves my point, really. There are no two words in the English language more harmful... than "good job." But is there a line? You know, maybe you go too far and you discourage the next Charlie Parker... - ...from ever becoming Charlie Parker. - No, man, no. Because the next Charlie Parker would never be discouraged. Yeah. The truth is, Andrew... I never really had a Charlie Parker. But I tried. I actually fucking tried. And that's more than most people ever do. And I will never apologise for how I tried. I'll see you later. Yeah. Hey, Andrew. Listen, I have no idea how you're gonna take this... but the band I'm leading for JVC, my drummer is not cutting it. You understand what I'm saying? No. I'm using the Studio Band playlist. You know, "Caravan," "Whiplash." I need somebody who really knows those charts. What about Ryan Connolly? All Connolly ever was to me was incentive for you. - Tanner? - Tanner switched to premed. I guess he got discouraged. Hey. Take the weekend. Think about it. - Hello? - Hey, Nicole, it's Andrew. - Hi. - Hey. It's been a while since I talked to you. Look, I... I'm really sorry about everything. I know that's not, you know, enough, but I'm just really sorry. But anyway, I got... I actually have this show this weekend. It's a... Like, a JVC thing. And I didn't know if maybe you'd wanna go... and we, you know, maybe get some, like, pizza afterwards... and, like, complain about our schools again. What is...? You said Jayvees? No, it's JVC. It's like a... It's a jazz thing. Yeah. Oh, okay.