So, uh, a couple of years after the parole hearing, uh, probably around 2005, Wershe,...

[Wershe] I think it goes back to Gil Hill. All roads lead back to him. I mean- there's someone or some thing that's keeping me in prison and it's not the crime that I committed. [wind howling] [Herm] So, uh, a couple of years after the parole hearing, uh, probably around 2005, Wershe, Jr., uh, was of course in, uh, federal, uh, protective custody, uh, witness protection program doing his life sentence. I became aware that he was involved, in a very minor way, in an auto theft ring