Everything is so extreme. There's no middle ground. Us versus them. We're right, they're...

Reverend Ernst Toller: Everything is so extreme. There's no middle ground. Us versus them. We're right, they're wrong let's go to war. Reverend Joel Jeffers: It's the times. These are frightening times. These kids grow up in a world we can hardly imagine. A sea of pornography from the time they're ten years old, hyper violent video games, a world without privacy, each kid isolated, communicating through media. A world without hope. Raised on a diet of terrorism, nuclear threats and global warming. You don't know what it's like to raise a kid in this... Reverend Ernst Toller: I did raise a kid. Reverend Joel Jeffers: I didn't mean it that way. They're frightened. They want certainty. Don't think, follow. They fall prey to extremism. Jihadism is everywhere. [gestures] Reverend Joel Jeffers: Even here.